People like John Lennon and Gandhi would be resurrected as part of the 'unrighteous' because they loved peace, but were never given a chance to hear the JW message. It's just wrong to picture those two studying with Witnesses under the ever-present gaze of lions and baskets of bountiful fruit.
Las Malvinas son Argentinas
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Share the Craziest far out ideas/arguments you have heard about life in the "NEW SYSTEM"
by BU2B inreally the whole thing is ludicrious but it is hilarious and sad at the same time to see grown people arguing about weather there will be cars, planes, eat meat, what about fish, etc in a place as imaginary as oz, yet to them it is reality.. the teaching of a paradise earth was so illogical it really was the first thing that started me on the path to waking up.
just the thought that someone could greet their beloved spouse who had died only to come to the realization that they could never be together again struck me as so cruel, i didnt want to live there even if it was all true.. i have heard jws say they think we might be able to fly, read minds since we will be able to use 100% and some seem to think life would be an endless vacation, with modern conveniences with no thought to all the processes and work that goes into something simple like a pencil.
i love the article jwfacts has on the flaws of any theory or teaching of paradise earth.. what are some things you have heard discussed/argued in car groups, gatherings etc when you were in?.
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My Final Goodbye
by Lady Lee ini want to start by saying i will not participate in discussion here about my resignation as a moderator at jwn.. simon please consider this as my resignation from that position.. i have been posting on this board for almost 12 years.
i know some of you a lot, others a little and some not very well at all.
i have remained here for those of you who have needed support as you make the transition out of the wts, who needed someone to listen to your experiences of abuse at the hands of jehovah's witnesses, and to both laugh and cry with you as you progress out of the watchtower society.. we know that we have all experienced the cruelty of abuse of one kind or another.
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That entire exchange reflected more on cedars' character and his own personal playbook than on LL. It is evident that she got in the middle of it at cedars' behest. It was a low-down and sneaky thing to do on someone else's board, and his reputation has suffered greatly since. Though LL probably could have used better judgment by telling cedars to appeal to the site owner or another mod not affiliated with AAWA to avoid a conflict of interest, he should be ashamed of himself for involving a woman with great personal integrity in such a back-handed act.
LL's decision to leave was hers and hers alone. cedars didn't make it for her, and it would be an insult to LL to assume so. Which isn't to say that he didn't chime in anyway with his always over-bearing opinion regarding her being a mod on a site he that viewed as enemy territory. I wouldn't want to be associated with such an unprofessional crybaby as the organisation's president, but LL obviously views it differently. We should all take her resignation at face value and wish her the best in her endeavours.
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How to Take Down the AAWA! (For those that have been hurt by that org)
by HintOfLime in(if you're tired of aawa threads, please be aware, this is an aawa thread.).
sadly - there are people who have been negatively affected by the aawa, and like other organizations, the aawa made protecting it's name and reputation a priority over helping and protecting the people it should have been trying to help.
like other organizations, they won't discuss the issues publicly with the community, insisting instead on discussions behind closed doors and "getting the names" of people expressing concerns.. .
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Try watering the thread and not adding so much lime.
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Cedars versus Simon
by Calebs Airplane inif cedars and simon had a debate about how to run a website and lady lee were the moderator, who would win this debate?.
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Las Malvinas son Argentinas
That's like hearing Colonel Sanders is taking on Napoleon in a pitched battle.
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Don't patronise me!
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The Advocates for Awareness of Watchtower Abuses (AAWA) [WARNING]
by Simon inuncensored discussions and information for anyone interested in the advocates for awareness of watchtower abuses or 'aawa' http://aawa.co/ (previously known as "the association of anti-watchtower activists http://jwactivists.org/) and how it's handled and responded to privacy issues and put people at risk:.
aawa is here!!
(the association of anti-watchtower activists)an invitation to a new effort- aawawhy when i logged onto aawa did it go to facebook ?in regards to aawaaawa - every generation needs a new revolution - thomas jeffersonnotice how the introduction of the aawa has brought out the loonies lately?will aawa become another cult?
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That's precisely the point. The minute I saw that they were actively soliciting donations, I knew that they would (and should) have to adhere to higher standards than the 'wild-west' of JWN as one of their directors called it. How are these donations being spent? According to their charter, donors have a right to see a full accounting of "a summary of how donated funds have been spent on a quarterly basis" according to their Mission Statement (See Article 6 "Financial Transparency"). I hope they realise that any one who donates even just a couple of dollars is entitled to see this quarterly report, and could sue them in court should they not disclose this as promised. One would certainly hope the president himself is not subpoenaed to testify! That would involve some serious travel expenses. Oh wait, will those travel expenses be covered by the donations they bring in? These are the questions that need to be asked. It had all the appearance from the very beginning to me of an ex-JW fraternity that would fly in from all over the world for clandestine meetings, giving a speech in a Manhattan hotel conference room in the hope of gathering media attention, and having a hearty meal at a trendy restaurant afterwards. It's not unreasonable or 'bashing' to openly ask if the donations would be spent on any such expenses. Finally, the president himself has been open about his career in ex-JW activism. A few months back he stated that he was writing a book, and should a publisher not pick it up, that he fully intended to self-publish. Does he intend on using AAWA funds to do this? Maybe I am wrong, and they have or had no intention on doing this. But these are fair questions. If I or anyone else here launched a site, asked for donations for a non-profit venture all the while letting everyone know I was dead set on publishing a book, the first in a series of exposés, would people be right to question motives? The president himself stated definitively that he was seeking an 'advance' for his publishing efforts and would use such funds to travel all over the world to meet with people. Where do the president's personal ambitions end and where does the AAWA's start? I'm finding an incredibly blurry line between those two, if they are not indeed one in the same.
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Why Do You Come To This Site?
by minimus ini believe that this site, jwn, serves many purposes.
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some are here almost, out of need.. others are here because they want to know the latest in watchtower world.. still others come here for the entertainment.. why do you frequent this place?
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Because the place just makes me laugh sometimes. To me that is the best kind of 'support' a site can offer.
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April 5, 2013 news article about a N. Carolina JW raping a 12-year-old girl at KH
by AndersonsInfo ini just received a link to this article today.
i searched to see if it had been posted before on jwn but couldn't locate anything.
barbarahttp://www.robesonian.com/view/full_story/22159944/article-man-charged-with-rape-of-12-year-oldman charged with rape of 12-year-oldby adelina shee.
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I don't understand how he was 'working' at the KH. Was he a Witness who was doing some electrical work or something? Maybe from a different congregation since he got to know the victim through his work? Also, it mentions 'statuatory rape' which would indicate that he seduced her. Wish the article was less ambiguous.
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BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME.....let's rebuild!
by Terry inokay we've all beat our chest, lamented and throttled the dead horse of aawa.. time to move on!.
i suggest those of us on j-w.n who care about creating something the right way take the trouble to get the framework going.. let's do the grunt work and get the nattering, debates, naming and organizing already pre-approved so that "others" who have the talent, ability, motivation and resources can move in and turn the key!.
because it was not done before.. there is more wisdom on this discussion board in our vast numbers than there could possibly be in a virtual boardroom with 8 people brain-storming.. that isn't an insult--it is just a statistical fact!.
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I believe they had a designated dustbin and shredder at Bethel for any such letters. If it makes you happy and gives you some moral confidence, then by all means do it. But to believe that anyone at Bethel is going to read past the moment when they first notice what your point is, let alone forward it to anyone in charge, is not being too realistic.
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WAAWAW - Watching AAWA's Website
by UsuaIusern@me inas on now the awaa website is down for maintenance.
is was meant to be out for 48hrs.
it was down over 72 hrs ago and promises to be up in a further 12. .
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Maybe they're just doing that to f**k with JWN? You know, keep us guessing. We'd have to account for a king's portion if not most of the hits they are going to get once it goes back online, with the contents and any new developments spread out here and analysed.